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good evening ladies and gentlemen and

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welcome welcome to the july meeting of

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now as usual our tour will be divided

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into two hearts with a q a at the end

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a reminder that there's a donations box

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at the back if you feel that way

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inclined uh

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now some of you will remember tonight's

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guest speakers he graced us with his

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presence on a previous occasion in

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september 2016.

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didn't realize supernova

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and then he discussed the

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abduction case

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there will of course be those of you who

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haven't had the pleasure so tonight's

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guest is none other than miss david

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hodrian who's the founder chairman and

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lead investigator of birmingham ufo

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group

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kind in the midterms i would have

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uh in fact we've had the pleasure

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addressing their group on a couple of

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occasions as well

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now dave's the united kingdom's deputy

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representative for the international

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coalition for extraterrestrial research

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and he's a regular contributor to truth

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magazine which you're all familiar with

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and previously wrote for ufo matrix and

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paranormal magazine

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and he spoke at many conferences and

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adult you're probably aware

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similar to our own group he's a prolific

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experiences which he's been

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so it's on this topic that tonight dave

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will present a highly informative

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phenomenon in depth

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you'll also explain about the various

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possible explanations what is taking

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there'll be drawings pictures

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the subject prepare to learn a lot more

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than what you already know so ladies and

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gentlemen i give you mrs david hotlin

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it's very dark

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so i can say the word

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well good evening siphon how you all

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doing tonight good good very good i

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think you're out there somewhere

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you can see rough silhouettes of people

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um yeah as uh as steve said i'm the uh

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chairman and lead investigator for the

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birmingham ufo group uh it's an absolute

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pleasure to be back especially after the

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uh crazy last couple of years uh ufo

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suffering because of the uh because of

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the lockdown and everything involved

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with it i got birmingham phone group uh

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luckily the community's grown uh again

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just as it's clearly done here swan uh

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organizations around the uk today uh few

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got something very special going on here

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with your regular group meetings because

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there's many groups out there who don't

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they just put everything online

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and it's really great to talk with you

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all tonight

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commonly referred to of course as alien

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uh that won't require much introduction

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i know all this already okay what's new

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fascination with uh some of the more

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complex aspects of the contact phenomena

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memories we're going to be delving into

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that in quite a lot of depth

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types of screen memories that can occur

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both the beings and also their craft

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lot of the different case examples

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showing many different types of screen

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screen memory is an overview

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1899 entitled screen memories and this

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the word et down my personal belief

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advanced multi-dimensional capabilities

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uh that's just my own personal opinion

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there's nothing set in stone with the

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ufo subject there's all sorts of

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different theories out there for many

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different aspects and one of the ones

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that's regularly discussed is of course

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the origin of where these where these

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beings if they exist where they're where

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they're coming from and there might be

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multiple things going on with that so

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there's no there might not be just one

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single straightforward answer and you

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might have views that totally different

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and i don't want to impose my views onto

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you at all i tend to step when i'm when

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i investigate cases and understand what

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the facts tell me what i've been told by

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the witness and i've put out that

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information i may say how it relates to

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certain aspects and maybe maybe

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viewpoints that i may express myself but

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that doesn't necessarily mean that

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they're 100 true so i just wanted to put

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that out there but anyway yeah back to

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the beams let's see what they can appear

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us so they can appear as animals of

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various types

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they can sometimes appear as human

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doctors or surgeons

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they can be as pilots interesting there

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the uh the flying craft so maybe that's

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why but

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see they can sometimes appear as

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fictional characters like characters

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that have a known story or maybe wearing

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a costume like a pirate costume or a

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ninja costume or something like that

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something recognizable as santa claus

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for example as well

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so figures of authority and so they can

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sometimes appear as police officers or

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firemen or something they're soldiers

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uh they can sometimes appear as clans or

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carnival staff quite creepy

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though uh they can sometimes appear

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something very familiar to the

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individual like one of their own family

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members

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uh and then also they can sometimes

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appear something off term silhouette uh

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we'll get to that and i'll explain what

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i mean by that

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so with our craft

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classic lovely picture of a flying

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saucer there nice nice piece of art so

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the craft when they're seen from the

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ground externally they can sometimes be

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remembered as normal aircraft like

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helicopters or aeroplanes

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uh they can also sometimes very

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strangely be remembered as ground

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vehicles like trucks or lorries moving

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around now this might be because the

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craft has potentially landed on the

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ground at that point but maybe not

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always

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uh inside the craft when people have

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taken the board

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they can recall seeing a hospital or a

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surgery

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or something familiar to them like maybe

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the the contents of their own home but

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they're aware that there's something not

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and i've seen beyond the mask

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so hypnosis regression

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it can be used uh

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to look into contact experiences now

361
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it's a very controversial angle of the

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subject i work with a hypnotic

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regressionist in birmingham who assists

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me with uh with contact cases because

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he's got an interest in the subject

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himself

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and

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sometimes under under aggression an

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individual can recount details that they

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can't consciously remember now some

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scientists will say that those details

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are just

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filled in essentially the brain filling

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in the gaps for what it expects to see

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and sometimes if the individuals had a

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big interest in the ufo subject that

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might entirely be the case we can never

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tell whether it's real or not but i've

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sat in on enough regressions

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though i think that sometimes they do

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work very well indeed and the

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hypnotherapist doesn't leave the

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individual or make sure they don't lead

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them with any questions it all comes

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from the individual who's hypnotized

386
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but it's a way of sometimes breaking

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past

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street memories so under this induced

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progressive state they relive what's

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taking place

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and they can sometimes recall these lost

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memories and when a screen memory is

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involved that may they may partially or

394
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fully see past that screen memory and

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see the being as it's as it's supposed

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to be and realize that it's a mask

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or the other craft of course

398
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and this was referenced in the adoption

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themed horror movie the fourth kind of

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many of you seen that hands up we've

401
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seen fourth kind

402
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okay oh not many of you okay uh this

403
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come out probably a long time ago i

404
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don't know it didn't feel like that long

405
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ago at least 10 years ago i think um

406
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essentially

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they looked at the contact subject and

408
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put a bit of a horror slant on it so

409
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kind of a bit like blair witch project

410
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it was very very well done it was very

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believable there was a there was a

412
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number of regressions in in the in the

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film that are so believable uh that they

414
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look like the real thing

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uh some people actually believe this was

416
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a real case and actually contacted me

417
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afterwards asking for my opinion on this

418
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particular case in the film and i had to

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tell him it didn't happen the actual

420
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case that happens in the film is not

421
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real but it is based on other contact

422
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experiences so they've included quite a

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lot of elements of ufo law in the film

424
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now you can see the front cover of the

425
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movie here this uh this owl uh with the

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uh the classic uh black gray eyes there

427
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and this is uh directly relating to our

428
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screen memories which sometimes occur

429
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i've got a little clip of it here where

430
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you'll actually see one of the

431
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regressions from the film with this uh

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with this al uh singing

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there's

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so yeah let's have a look at our first

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type of screen memory now uh animals

436
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:06,799
uh where i'll actually reference the the

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isle and other things so

438
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as i said the ut's primarily the greys

439
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seemingly will sometimes appear in the

440
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form of a known earth animal uh owls are

441
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quite commonly reported that's why they

442
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were utilized in the film

443
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but they can also appear as many other

444
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,959
different types of animals uh wolves

445
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dogs cats deer

446
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:26,240
rabbits

447
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,799
insects have been reported and other

448
00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:30,559
species as well it's very famous case

449
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where the

450
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tiger in his childhood some of you may

451
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uh know mike and maybe even talk to you

452
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,720
over the years

453
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uh so the animal can sometimes appear

454
00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:42,799
unusual so for example it could be an

455
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insect but it's absolutely massive in

456
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size

457
00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:47,840
or a mouse that's standing on its hind

458
00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:49,919
legs uh this sort of thing says aspects

459
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of it that don't fit a a normal earth

460
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:54,880
animal but essentially the appearance is

461
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one

462
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,360
and sometimes it can be recognizable

463
00:18:02,070 --> 00:17:59,360
such as the individual's own pet of

464
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:02,080
their family

465
00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:03,679
let's have a look at some actual cases

466
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now

467
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and i'm going to take third case here

468
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involving uh involving owls

469
00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:10,160
this is an early case that i

470
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:13,120
investigated right back in 2011 and i

471
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,400
started investigating in very early 2008

472
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,760
so this was in my early years of

473
00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:19,679
investigation and it was a good case

474
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,600
from eldington in birmingham involves a

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00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:23,760
lady named rachel by the way if i give

476
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people's names they the witnesses

477
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,520
expressly allowed me to reveal their

478
00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:29,600
first name and sometimes their full name

479
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:32,720
i always keep the witnesses um

480
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:35,120
wishes uh paramount so sometimes i use

481
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,640
pseudonyms and i'll let you know if it

482
00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:38,480
is a pseudonym but i think most of the

483
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time it's the real names in it so

484
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:43,039
um a little slide down it lateral story

485
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:44,799
to this um rachel seemed to have

486
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:47,360
predicted in that in advance

487
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,200
working with birmingham third group on a

488
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,280
case and what happened with this is uh

489
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when i went across uh the house to uh to

490
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sit down and just go through all the

491
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details with her

492
00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:58,799
um i instead of referring to my group's

493
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,640
birmingham phone group i call it bufog

494
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which is what we are for sure

495
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and as soon as i said that she was like

496
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:06,799
oh my god yeah there was just reaction

497
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,760
from her

498
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:09,440
and she goes over to this drawer and she

499
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,039
pulls out a piece of paper and

500
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:12,960
discovered the word blue fog on it yeah

501
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,039
she told me that she'd written it down

502
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:17,200
about year before and had no idea what

503
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,640
it meant she thought maybe it was like

504
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:20,320
bullfrog or something like that and she

505
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:21,760
didn't know what it meant and as soon as

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i told her she was like that's it and

507
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and

508
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it seems

509
00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:28,640
that she'd psychically predicted that i

510
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,840
was going to be working with her on a

511
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:32,160
case now this is not uncommon at all in

512
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a lot of content as many of you will

513
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:36,240
know there's a psychic kind of element

514
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:38,240
to the contact phenomena and in over the

515
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:40,080
half the cases i've investigated as a

516
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,320
hell of a lot of cases the individual

517
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,600
has expressed one or more uh sixth sense

518
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:47,760
type abilities seemingly

519
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,120
quite often

520
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,200
premonitions of future events and it's

521
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,960
not always something big like a train

522
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,080
crash or something like that it can

523
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,480
sometimes be really random mundane

524
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:58,400
things but they're absolutely aware that

525
00:20:02,070 --> 00:19:59,919
it's happened and then later on and

526
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:02,080
we're talking like way more than deja vu

527
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,760
here so we're not discussing just kind

528
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,760
of a little snippet and i think i've

529
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,200
seen that before because we all have

530
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,360
that from time to time this is way more

531
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:11,600
um way more impressive than that so it

532
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,440
looks like there was a premonition

533
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:15,919
involved there back to her case so in

534
00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:18,320
her childhood years she had a repeated

535
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,160
memories of seeing this white owl

536
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,559
staring her in right up in the face as a

537
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:24,240
drawing she did for me

538
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,600
on request

539
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:27,039
and it used to really frighten her she

540
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,720
actually wouldn't go to bed

541
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,720
because she was scared she'd see the owl

542
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,880
and it used to appear just in the phase

543
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,400
of she was just starting to settle down

544
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,559
but before she dropped off to sleep and

545
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,080
she'd just see it clear his day in front

546
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:40,559
of her it's very very likely this was

547
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:43,120
flashbacks to contact experiences not

548
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,880
necessarily one she was having right

549
00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:47,039
there in damage it's all the owl she may

550
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,280
have been having flashbacks to previous

551
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,360
uh experiences that had occurred in that

552
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,679
environment it's very very common for

553
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:55,440
contactees when they're in the same

554
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:56,320
environment where they've had

555
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,840
experiences to have flashbacks to

556
00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:59,600
previous things which

557
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,919
is well not at all surprising really is

558
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:03,840
it so it's likely to be in visitation or

559
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,159
abduction related and she actually

560
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,000
recounted some actual abductions with me

561
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,159
in depth which will go through one of

562
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,400
those in a bit in fact

563
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:14,240
here's another completely separate case

564
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,280
there

565
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,520
so this is from west scotland and this

566
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,760
time it involves a mother and two

567
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,520
daughters

568
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,760
back in 2004 a youngest daughter and she

569
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:25,679
used to play with sylvanian families the

570
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,320
the famous range of toys

571
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,240
this is the uh family of owls you can

572
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,000
see that don't look cute

573
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,640
um and uh but on repeated occasions her

574
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,720
daughter recalled seeing

575
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,120
large versions of these owls sitting in

576
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:41,039
her room at night uh so they'd be they

577
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,400
wouldn't be like four foot high or

578
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:44,080
anything that'd be the size of owls but

579
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,440
you can see that she's drawn them there

580
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:46,640
and you can see the clothing

581
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,799
similarities so she tried to draw that

582
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,640
so i said she was using outsized

583
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,559
sylvanian family things that they would

584
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,080
appear and they would sit on the top of

585
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,480
a wardrobe and then as they look as she

586
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,080
looked at them they'd take off and

587
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,159
they'd fly towards her face and as they

588
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:02,000
as they come across the room she'd black

589
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,360
out and that'd be the last memory she'd

590
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:05,039
have she'd come around and it'd be the

591
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,320
following morning

592
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,480
as many of you will know blackouts

593
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,200
involving contact very very um

594
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,600
very regular that's reported and it's

595
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,000
probably very much directly linked with

596
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,240
the missing time phenomena so usually

597
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,919
following the blackout they might have a

598
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,200
period of missing time they can't

599
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:23,520
account for um so may have been

600
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,480
reductions or again might be flashbacks

601
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:28,240
we don't really know but yeah certainly

602
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,390
another case here this one's a very

603
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:36,480
interesting one from new south wales so

604
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,600
balina

605
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:39,360
uh again it involved a mother and her

606
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:40,640
two daughters completely different

607
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,600
family

608
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:43,520
mother's names eloise hadn't released

609
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:47,200
the names of her daughters in 2011 she

610
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,559
uh she'd had numerous contact

611
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,480
experiences to her life essentially and

612
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:52,080
she decided to hold those back from her

613
00:22:55,390 --> 00:22:53,200
daughters because she didn't want to

614
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:55,400
frighten them rightfully soon but in

615
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,840
2011 she decided that her oldest

616
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,240
daughter was old enough to to take in

617
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,159
what she was trying to tell her so she

618
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,919
started talking with her about her

619
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:06,080
experiences not her other daughter at

620
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:07,600
all

621
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:10,400
and at least her daughter

622
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,080
this very very interesting dream she'd

623
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,640
had she said that a being of some kind

624
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,960
came into the house at night time

625
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,120
put her father to sleep

626
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,720
very interesting indeed and then took

627
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:23,039
her somewhere to do a test so she was

628
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,240
taken somewhere she said there were

629
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,080
other children there and she was doing

630
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,080
some sort of examination and there were

631
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:30,480
beings there that she didn't recognize

632
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:33,360
so the details were hazy but

633
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,880
very very likely abduction related

634
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:38,960
so eloise out upon hearing this asked

635
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:41,840
her to draw a drawing of the being that

636
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,320
had come to get her to do this test and

637
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,080
this is the drawing that she drew so you

638
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:47,679
can see this kind of cat like finger and

639
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,880
katy is kind of sad looking face uh arms

640
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,799
and legs or standing up on his hind legs

641
00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:54,640
now there is actually a number of cases

642
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,280
out there where feline type beings are

643
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,600
reported they're very rare compared to

644
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,919
say cases involving greys or nordics

645
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,799
humanoids etc but there are cases out

646
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,559
there and some people may be familiar

647
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,159
with those cases so i'm not saying this

648
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,760
is definitely a screen memory perhaps it

649
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:11,840
was one of those feline beings

650
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,840
but then given the fact that she's a

651
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,600
child and the fact that screen memories

652
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,360
occur

653
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,679
more prevalent in childhood also later

654
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,279
on she had experiences where she saw

655
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,440
grey's instead of this these cat people

656
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,120
it stands to reason this was probably a

657
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,760
screen memory now even more interesting

658
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,840
uh soon afterwards while doing the house

659
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:31,600
where she came across another drawing

660
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:33,039
that had been done by her younger

661
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,480
daughter it was only four years old at

662
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,520
the time

663
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,880
and when she saw the drawing she was

664
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,039
very spooked out by it because it looked

665
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,360
very familiar to what her older daughter

666
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:43,120
drawn for her incidentally she kept this

667
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:44,000
drawing

668
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:45,679
she didn't show it to the four-year-old

669
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,440
so she went and asked her her younger

670
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,440
daughter what she'd drawn and a younger

671
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,039
daughter told her it was someone who

672
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,120
visited her once that was what she told

673
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,600
her and that fascinating so it appears

674
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,840
that both these uh both the daughters

675
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,559
were essentially being taken or at least

676
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:02,559
experiencing visitations if not

677
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,149
there's another rather spooky case this

678
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,919
is a another repeat case so you'll

679
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,440
notice that a lot of cases are talking

680
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,600
about repeater cases more often than not

681
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,600
with contact um

682
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,760
it's usually repeat experiences rather

683
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,679
than an individual experience that just

684
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,360
happens and there's nothing else

685
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,880
following it now there are cases on

686
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,200
record like that of course but more

687
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,720
often than not you find out that the

688
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,640
person's had all sorts of experiences

689
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,320
going on throughout their life usually

690
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,919
starting around the age of between four

691
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,520
and six

692
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,440
uh cisco's from red now on the outskirts

693
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,760
of birmingham involves a gentleman and

694
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,840
he again in his childhood again you'll

695
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,360
see the similarities between these two

696
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,120
separate cases already he had this

697
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,440
recurring nightmare in his childhood now

698
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,880
in this nightmare he'd be walking

699
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:49,440
through his local uh park uh with kind

700
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,000
of tops of trees and he'd be on his own

701
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,360
there wouldn't be any else anybody else

702
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:55,039
present and all of a sudden this pack of

703
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,559
wolves would emerge from between the

704
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,559
trees and essentially sort of snarling

705
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,480
walls and they'd start coming towards

706
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,360
him he'd tried to run away but

707
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,039
he couldn't run at full speed and the

708
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,559
walls would just essentially catch up

709
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:08,960
with him and at that point bang three

710
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,919
men so that's all they can remember

711
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,559
and interestingly later on the walls

712
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,080
actually changed in the dream into

713
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:18,080
something entirely different uh but

714
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,600
we'll get back to that in a bit so

715
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:22,000
remember that case for later on

716
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:24,400
okay next let's have a look at hospitals

717
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,909
so yeah the beings can sometimes appear

718
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:31,919
as doctors or surgeons

719
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,919
and the craft interiors can sometimes be

720
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,120
recollected

721
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,279
during an abduction as an entire

722
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,360
hospital or surgery and sometimes it's

723
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,600
both of those things and sometimes it's

724
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,360
just one so the person might remember a

725
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,080
hospital but then see any beings there

726
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:48,320
or sometimes it might be entirely so all

727
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,600
they can remember is going to hospital

728
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,200
there's numerous possible reasons for

729
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,960
why this might be the case and we're

730
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,480
going to get more into those later in

731
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,600
the talk

732
00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:59,600
so i don't want to i don't want to lean

733
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,600
it too too much towards any particular

734
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,279
explanation at this point

735
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,799
right i'm going to go over a fascinating

736
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,480
case some of you may be familiar with

737
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,720
this case it's an incredible abduction

738
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,159
experience from uh that occurred in

739
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:11,279
droidwich

740
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:14,000
um it's a dual abduction two abduction

741
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:16,080
experiences that happened within the

742
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,679
space a week

743
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,039
and we're going to go into aspects of

744
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,440
those abductions now

745
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,440
uh it occurred the two abductions

746
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,520
occurred in late 2010 but again this was

747
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,600
a repeat case and after speaking with

748
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,960
the lady involved

749
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,480
it turned out she had stuff right back

750
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:32,240
to her childhood but essentially what

751
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,440
she'd done is she pushed those

752
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:36,240
experiences to the back of her mind so

753
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,919
a lot of the time when people have

754
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:39,440
strange experiences they're so at the

755
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,799
norm for them that they can't handle

756
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,240
them so what they'll do is they'll just

757
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,440
ignore them and they'll just pretend

758
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,799
like they never happened because they're

759
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,799
just too far out their normal life but

760
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,960
when we started to to delve into this in

761
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,799
more depth it turned out that she'd very

762
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,600
likely been a competitive childhood i'm

763
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,960
going to go into what happened in late

764
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,559
2010 here

765
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,320
so she had these two trigger abduction

766
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,559
experiences and what i mean by that is

767
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,320
these are the experiences that awoken

768
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,159
her to the fact that there was something

769
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,159
going on in her life that she needed to

770
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,720
look into in more depth

771
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,279
now in her second abduction experience

772
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,799
she found herself

773
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:13,679
in this

774
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,640
room

775
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,440
had

776
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,600
large wood panels all over the walls and

777
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,200
there's a there was a double door in the

778
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,720
background with kind of glass windows

779
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:22,720
and that's what she's drawn there

780
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,880
she found herself lying down on this uh

781
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,960
kind of bench or stretcher of some kind

782
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,640
and she was unclogged that's her there's

783
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,960
a stick figure she's unclothed and she

784
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,799
was lying underneath this thin white

785
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,039
sheet that was just draped over her from

786
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:39,269
and she found ourselves as if she was

787
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,799
completely paralyzed as a lot of people

788
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,960
are during abduction experiences i won't

789
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,480
go into the reasons for that as i've got

790
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,320
my own views as to why that's the case

791
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,480
um but kind of move away from what we're

792
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,919
trying to cover here

793
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,520
so she's lying down and she can look

794
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,880
around with her eyes and she can move

795
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,880
her neck a tiny weeny bit

796
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,120
after a right she can sense she sees

797
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,120
this little chap and there was also some

798
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,799
sort of being standing back here she's

799
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,919
trying to question mark there because

800
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,039
she couldn't lean the head right around

801
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,120
to see it but she says this tall being

802
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:06,799
standing behind the left shoulder and i

803
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,559
should actually experienced that same

804
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,080
being standing there in her first

805
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,679
induction experience we've got a direct

806
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,279
link here between between the two

807
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:15,200
productions but you could see this

808
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,240
little guy

809
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,240
so to the right was this short doctor

810
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:20,480
chap he was about four foot high he had

811
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,120
short red hair he went spectacles and he

812
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,520
had a white doctor's typical kind of

813
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,039
doctor's coat on

814
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,640
and he was down there standing next to

815
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,399
her not talking to her

816
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:32,000
what he did he reached out his hands

817
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:33,039
over her

818
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,480
and held him a short distance above her

819
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:37,039
body and he starts moving his hands down

820
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:38,240
her body not touching her but just

821
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,600
moving down over

822
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,399
and

823
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,799
as he goes she starts to hear telepathic

824
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,559
voice in her mind so the doctor's mouth

825
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,159
is not moving but she hears him talking

826
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,480
to her and essentially he's telling her

827
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:51,360
what once she has or had in the past so

828
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,880
he moved down over a stomach and said he

829
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,120
used to have a stomach ulcer there but

830
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:57,600
it's it's gone there and uh you're back

831
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,720
shaking a bit and this sort of thing

832
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,760
because she actually had a bad back at

833
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,520
the time when i was talking with her now

834
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,880
she was very worried that big was going

835
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,240
to tell us some bad light you've got

836
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,320
cancer or something like that and she

837
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,919
actually had a telepathic message in her

838
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,919
head saying don't worry you don't have

839
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,840
cancer so it's like the being could hear

840
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,279
what what she was thinking and then

841
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:15,440
directly responded to that

842
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,440
so this scan of uh of a kind took place

843
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:21,679
uh mentioned being a behind the shoulder

844
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:24,080
perform this scan and after that

845
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,000
essentially the experience ends and she

846
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,240
and she wakes up in bed

847
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:29,919
and because of the previous experience

848
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,320
that previously happened she was very

849
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:33,919
adamant that this was not a nightmare

850
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,799
though

851
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,720
it felt far more real to her and she

852
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,720
actually woke up her husband and

853
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,640
he was kind of quite dismissive of her

854
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,000
experiences he was just putting down to

855
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,919
nightmares and this sort of thing

856
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:45,919
but she knew it wasn't that but of

857
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,720
course in as part of the investigation

858
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,159
actually went around there with a

859
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,120
hypnotherapist who uh regressed the lady

860
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,440
at her at her own house

861
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,120
and part of that regression we of course

862
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,720
delved into this experience to see what

863
00:31:01,510 --> 00:31:00,000
to come out with

864
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,520
which came out some really interesting

865
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,039
information what you're going to see now

866
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,960
is a snippet from the actual regression

867
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,320
transcript

868
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,840
where she starts talking about this

869
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:09,600
short dart chat

870
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:12,559
it's the actual words there

871
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,480
during her regression she essentially

872
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:16,799
started to break past this screen memory

873
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,279
that they're being had going on

874
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,480
there's a man

875
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,679
a man yeah on my right side he's very

876
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,159
pale he has short red hair what about

877
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,000
the shape of his face

878
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,840
it doesn't seem real

879
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:31,760
his face doesn't seem right what makes

880
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,520
you tell me that his face doesn't seem

881
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:34,480
real

882
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,880
it's like it wants to fall off

883
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:39,600
and his arms what about his arms they

884
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:42,080
look like normal hands but they change

885
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:43,919
while i'm watching what he's doing

886
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:46,159
you observe his hands change from normal

887
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,600
looking hands to

888
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:49,840
just something with three fingers normal

889
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,279
fingers no they seem to be pointed

890
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,039
it's not absolutely fascinating so you

891
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,120
can see there with that

892
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,960
she's literally like describing the face

893
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:00,320
of the being like it wants to fall off

894
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,679
literally singing like a mask that's

895
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:03,679
slipping away she realizes that the

896
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,919
being the the projected image of this

897
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:07,840
doctor is not right and she's kind of

898
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,159
seeing past it now consciously she

899
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,760
remembered the doctor she did this

900
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,039
details only came out during the

901
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,640
regression so she already had a

902
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,720
conscious recollection of the doctor

903
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,799
but under hypnosis she seemed to be

904
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,159
breaking past that

905
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,159
very interesting indeed

906
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,080
let's have a look at another case here

907
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,840
back to the location molina in south

908
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:27,200
wales i mentioned that she had other

909
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:28,480
experiences

910
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,159
so soon after being taken away for that

911
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,000
test that we talked about previously her

912
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,399
daughter began to develop nosebleeds a

913
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,399
common after effect of contact

914
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,679
experiences

915
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,440
don't always occur and nor am i

916
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:41,039
suggesting that anybody who has

917
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,559
nosebleeds is a constant thing

918
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:44,000
absolutely not it's uh you know

919
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,440
obviously many kids have nosebleeds

920
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,720
anyway it doesn't mean that they're

921
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,880
being taken but it can sometimes be

922
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,080
linked with some of the examination

923
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,399
procedures that are being done as sami

924
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,720
will know um so she started to mention

925
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:56,399
to her mother

926
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,519
doctors who would come for her at night

927
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,720
and when her mom asked her what they

928
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:02,080
looked like she couldn't remember what

929
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,760
they looked like so even though she

930
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,519
couldn't remember their appearance she

931
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:07,200
was describing them as doctors isn't

932
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,240
that strange

933
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:10,559
um that we imagine specific details

934
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,760
about what their faces look like et

935
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,440
cetera she couldn't remember

936
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:15,360
but this has some somewhat similarities

937
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,600
to the uh infamous american case whitney

938
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,279
schreiber who many of you will know

939
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:22,000
about the famous uh case uh it was

940
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:23,919
actually turned into the film communion

941
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,760
based on his uh

942
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:27,519
famous uh book of his contact

943
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,240
experiences now one of the whitney was

944
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,159
actually very very skeptical about the

945
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:34,159
fact that he was experiencing contact he

946
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,600
didn't want to believe it he was like

947
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,760
i'm going mad it must be something else

948
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,360
this is not well i think you know what i

949
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,279
think it is but he started to talk with

950
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:43,840
his son about the experiences and his

951
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,640
son started to refer to little blue

952
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,720
doctors who would come into his room at

953
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,640
night time and take him away and whitney

954
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,600
had seen these same beings himself and

955
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:55,200
that was one of the things that cemented

956
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,480
this in reality

957
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,240
for him and got him to believe that he

958
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,320
was actually experiencing something real

959
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,320
um absolutely fascinating and these

960
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:04,000
little chats are commonly referred to as

961
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:05,120
blue dwarfs

962
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,480
they're not often seen i've dealt with a

963
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,320
few cases where they've been reported

964
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:09,839
they're usually between sort of one and

965
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,679
a half foot to two foot high uh

966
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:13,599
sometimes extremely frightening to the

967
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,639
individual and they uh seem to assist uh

968
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,639
often assist the greys so people will

969
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,079
see greys and these little guys

970
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,839
alongside them and the graves themselves

971
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,599
are usually quite short so these guys

972
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,040
are really really short but they're

973
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,069
so there's some examples there adopters

974
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,839
uh next let's move on to aircraft and

975
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,560
pilots

976
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,079
up and away

977
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,320
so yeah in cases where a craft is seen

978
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,000
up in the sky and the individual can

979
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:41,839
sometimes be causing a completely normal

980
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,960
aircraft such as a plane or a helicopter

981
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,639
um or maybe something else a hand glider

982
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:47,679
or a

983
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,240
if direct contact occurs then the beams

984
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:52,240
can sometimes occur appear as human

985
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,359
pilots

986
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,200
and they may sometimes invite the

987
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,240
witness aboard the helicopter or plane

988
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,040
in their recollection

989
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,400
now there is a number of instances where

990
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,320
the aircraft or the pilot scene seems to

991
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,079
be kind of vintage like old-fashioned

992
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:08,000
like they might see a world war

993
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,640
one biplane or maybe a kind of pilot

994
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,079
looks somewhat similar to this drawing

995
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,680
here with the old the old goggles on the

996
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:15,599
head not of course how pilots stressed

997
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,400
today

998
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:18,000
and that's really interesting and there

999
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,680
might be uh there might be various

1000
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,000
reasons for that uh we'll delve into

1001
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,680
that that kind of leads towards one of

1002
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:26,000
the potential explanations but again

1003
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,200
we're leaving that until later in the

1004
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:29,040
talk so i don't want to delve too much

1005
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,839
to that right now back to the cases

1006
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,200
and you'll be familiar with this for any

1007
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,960
of you who have my previous talk vista

1008
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,640
that steve mentioned at start this is

1009
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,560
one of his experiences but you may not

1010
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:40,000
remember it so let's go through it again

1011
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,040
and for some of you this will be the

1012
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,720
first time hearing this so the uh the

1013
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,119
vista case involved a uh lovely chap a

1014
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,680
guy named david hunt he was a musician

1015
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:49,599
in actual fact that for a while they had

1016
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:52,400
a band called cosmosis going and a lot

1017
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,920
of the songs that the band put out were

1018
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:55,280
actually themed on his contact

1019
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,560
experiences and aspects of that and um

1020
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,839
it was really good actually we went to

1021
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:01,119
see them live a couple of times i don't

1022
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,400
think they're going anymore i think they

1023
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,760
uh i think they split up and went their

1024
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,760
own separate ways but i still keep in

1025
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,440
touch with david and his friends from

1026
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,760
time to time uh but at age eight he

1027
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,240
lived in hillingdon down in uh

1028
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,480
down in the middle of london uh very

1029
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,720
very suburban area and he'd regularly go

1030
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,640
to this local park on windsor avenue

1031
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,800
with his friend the park is still there

1032
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,640
to this day um

1033
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,640
it's um they they refer to it as the

1034
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:26,160
elephant park because it had a climbing

1035
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:27,440
frame that was shaped like an elephant

1036
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,359
so it was their nickname they go for it

1037
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,000
um but it's a triangular shaped area um

1038
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,560
area with a small playground at one end

1039
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,200
and essentially just open grassy fields

1040
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,200
now while we're down there this is the

1041
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,800
playground down here on here with a

1042
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,079
round about some swings so they're

1043
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,760
sitting on the swings and all of a

1044
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:47,200
sudden um they did witnesses this very

1045
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:50,079
strange object appear he said it was a a

1046
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:52,079
long cylindrical shaped thing

1047
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,800
it seemed rotating and at one end were

1048
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,720
what looked like almost like round radar

1049
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,640
dishes almost sticking out sticking out

1050
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,400
this top end they said it reminded me of

1051
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,320
the telecom tower essentially and they

1052
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,640
were flying along and while completely

1053
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:07,119
silently and rotating now this thing

1054
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,480
comes comes across

1055
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,079
across the center of the grass and

1056
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,079
essentially lands vertically and lands

1057
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,880
about 100 yards across the grass

1058
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,079
and um

1059
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,000
dev is not frightened of it because he's

1060
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,079
had previous experiences to this i won't

1061
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,320
go into so he was already ready for

1062
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:23,760
weird stuff going on in his life

1063
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:26,000
essentially a doorway opens in the

1064
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,359
bottom of this thing and two pilots

1065
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,480
emerge just wearing dark shades and

1066
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,400
bomber jackets

1067
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:34,880
and they beckon them over so him and his

1068
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:37,280
friend they actually approach these uh

1069
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,800
these gentlemen have come out of this

1070
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,040
object and they the men said you speak

1071
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,920
with them singing the audible uh and

1072
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,599
and offered to take them for a ride in

1073
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,599
this strange craft that's behind them

1074
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,359
they're just commando

1075
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,040
david was actually up for that but his

1076
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,320
friend matthew was actually quite

1077
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,560
frightened by uh by what was taking

1078
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,000
place i mean it's weird isn't it let's

1079
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,560
be fair um so he didn't want to go and

1080
00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:00,800
then and in the end david kind of agreed

1081
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:02,079
and they said okay we're not we're not

1082
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,680
going to go with you now the men didn't

1083
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:05,119
kind of grab hold of them and drag them

1084
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:06,880
onto it or anything they just seemed to

1085
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,359
agree with that they got back in door

1086
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,680
closes object takes off completely

1087
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,680
suddenly and then essentially zips away

1088
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,839
into the sky and it's gone

1089
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,200
that's left there and the park on the

1090
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,320
road was like one earth took place

1091
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,760
now in talking about this they kind of

1092
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:23,200
kept it to themselves they didn't tell

1093
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,640
his parents his friend didn't tell his

1094
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,839
parents it was

1095
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,760
they didn't think they'd believe them so

1096
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,599
they just discussed it themselves but

1097
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,119
david noticed that in the following

1098
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,359
weeks after the experience his friend

1099
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,280
climbed up more and more didn't want to

1100
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,119
discuss it now this is a common after

1101
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,280
effect of experiences uh some people

1102
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:41,359
find it too hard to to deal with so

1103
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,640
they'll just block it out and pretend

1104
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:44,320
like it never happened and they just

1105
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:45,520
want to get on with their life so didn't

1106
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,040
want to discuss it with him and after

1107
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,640
that david actually moved away from the

1108
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,640
area uh he moved away from the area but

1109
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,720
about i think it was about eight or nine

1110
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,200
years later he was back down in london

1111
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,880
uh just just visiting for the weekend

1112
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:58,400
and it happened to bump into his old

1113
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,599
friend matthew

1114
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,359
and uh he brought up the experience with

1115
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,040
him again because he figured so long's

1116
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,480
gone and i can talk about it again with

1117
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,160
him more openly

1118
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,839
when he just talked about it with him he

1119
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,280
found out that there was a difference in

1120
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,440
the recollection of what happened

1121
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,760
this is absolutely fascinating and david

1122
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,440
remembered this strange object the

1123
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,440
strange political shaped object land his

1124
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,599
friend described as a helicopter his

1125
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,359
friend said he remembered a helicopter

1126
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,760
landing and two pilots getting out

1127
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:25,760
so he didn't see the craft now what i

1128
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,240
think probably took place with this is

1129
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,320
because david was more accustomed to

1130
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:33,119
seeing the beings before and everything

1131
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,480
it led to their difference in the

1132
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,560
recollection but that's not saying too

1133
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,240
much again that doesn't influence the

1134
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,280
second part of the talk but fascinating

1135
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,880
here's another completely separate case

1136
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,960
again involving helicopter this one's

1137
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,560
from swansea

1138
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,240
there we go it involves a lady named

1139
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,640
kerry kerry's coming down here not no

1140
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:52,480
no just wanted to chat there

1141
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:53,920
so

1142
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,200
she lived in katanga in a belgian congo

1143
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,040
in her childhood

1144
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,359
a very fascinating place to live and

1145
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,200
that when she was age eight right back

1146
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,760
in 1955 she went to nicole dessert's

1147
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,680
primary school

1148
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,200
and one day while she was there a very

1149
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,640
strange experience or to her

1150
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,480
recollection took place what she

1151
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,920
remembered

1152
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,839
is it came to the following day she

1153
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,599
remembered that on the previous day a

1154
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,440
helicopter had landed in the school

1155
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,800
playground

1156
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,160
didn't make any sense of course because

1157
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,520
you think well surely the other kids to

1158
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,359
say whatever but it landed in the school

1159
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,920
playground a pilot got out and it turned

1160
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,920
out to be one of her neighbors now her

1161
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,280
neighbor actually at the time did

1162
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:32,880
actually give helicopter tours for

1163
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,320
tourists around the local area so that

1164
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,119
seemed to fit and he got out and invited

1165
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,400
her aboard this helicopter

1166
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,920
of course she's a child so she's very

1167
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,760
excited by this she remembers getting in

1168
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:44,000
the helicopter and

1169
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,599
taking off and flying around and just

1170
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,119
looking at the windows and just seeing

1171
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,960
the ground below

1172
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,800
and it seemingly landed at the school to

1173
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:53,040
pick her up just her now she remember

1174
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:54,160
being up in the air but she doesn't

1175
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,119
remember the landing which is

1176
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:56,640
interesting she remembers being looking

1177
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,000
at the windows but she can't remember

1178
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,000
how she got back down to the ground and

1179
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,680
this is where this kind of flashback

1180
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,839
ended and she told her mother this she

1181
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:06,079
just come out with it and then we come

1182
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:07,040
got me from the playground the

1183
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,400
helicopter now of course someone's

1184
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:10,000
absolutely furious about this storms

1185
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,680
around next door what you're doing and

1186
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,359
that's ridiculous and of course the

1187
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,880
neighbor denies it happening because

1188
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:16,240
it's completely illogical it didn't

1189
00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:17,119
happen

1190
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,980
um now

1191
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:19,359
[Music]

1192
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:20,560
logically it would have made any sense

1193
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:22,079
for him to have done that and of course

1194
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,200
as i mentioned it would have been other

1195
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:24,800
kids around would have seen it this sort

1196
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:25,920
of thing

1197
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,440
she actually got regressed later on a

1198
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,880
number of years later i didn't see the

1199
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,400
transcript of this regression but she

1200
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,359
informed me that under regression she

1201
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,760
describes seeing a flying uh don't dis

1202
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,319
shake craft with a great not a pilot and

1203
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,640
a helicopter so it appears that both the

1204
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,640
uh both the craft and the beams masked

1205
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,599
in this case by screen memory

1206
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,040
let's move on to fictional characters

1207
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:49,760
next things get real strange here

1208
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,960
so yeah sometimes the beings can appear

1209
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,880
as characters that we know aren't

1210
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:56,319
actually real they're sometimes familiar

1211
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,920
to the content like it might be a story

1212
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,040
that they're reading at the time or

1213
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,560
something something they've seen from a

1214
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:01,920
film

1215
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:03,920
it can sometimes even be cartoon

1216
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:06,480
characters that they'll actually see

1217
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,599
and you'll actually see an example of

1218
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,960
that in just a minute

1219
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,720
this one definitely more prevalent in

1220
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,160
childhood years i can't think of any

1221
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:14,079
with storybook characters

1222
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,520
kind of from later on it always seems to

1223
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,839
be when they when they're kids um

1224
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,359
not always friendly so sometimes it can

1225
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,880
be something frightening like a like a

1226
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,400
demon or a gremlin or something like

1227
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,880
that that's going to come to get them

1228
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,040
and this was actually mentioned in the

1229
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,960
classic steven spielberg series i've

1230
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,520
taken hands i've ever seen taken

1231
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,839
wow not many of you okay a few years

1232
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:36,000
okay highly recommended i think it's the

1233
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,760
best tv series that's ever been put out

1234
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:39,760
on the contact phenomena hands down it's

1235
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,480
a it's a 10 part

1236
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,280
10 part tv drama essentially spanning

1237
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,680
right back to roswell right up to modern

1238
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,000
day uh it features a number of families

1239
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:51,839
that have contacted amongst them and

1240
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,960
what happens to them over the

1241
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,280
generations is absolutely stolen to

1242
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:57,599
entertainment really really good show

1243
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,319
and he stephen um as many of you all

1244
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,240
know has a big interest in ufo subject

1245
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,680
which is why he released close encounter

1246
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,440
the third kind but he also released

1247
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,079
taken to look more into contact and in

1248
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,839
that he included lots of aspects of the

1249
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,319
phenomena including screen memories now

1250
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,560
what you're about to see is a clip from

1251
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,200
the start of the second episode uh one

1252
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,280
of the boys of the family is being taken

1253
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,960
and he has a screen memory that's linked

1254
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,240
with a story that he's reading at the

1255
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:24,160
time so let's have a look at that right

1256
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:43,349
[Music]

1257
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:44,390
so

1258
00:44:19,190 --> 00:43:50,740
[Music]

1259
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,990
and live in the pictures on every page

1260
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,160
but deep down you know that this isn't

1261
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,800
something that could ever happen

1262
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,640
and it's knowing that the magic isn't

1263
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,319
quite there

1264
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,640
but it's just over the next two

1265
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,720
and maybe in the next story

1266
00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:36,240
it makes you feel safe in your bed at

1267
00:45:15,720 --> 00:44:38,670
night

1268
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:36,250
[Music]

1269
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880
so there we go another fantastic

1270
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:45,200
representation of a childhood um screen

1271
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,119
memory there

1272
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:49,680
let's go into an actual case next

1273
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,720
this is absolutely fascinating this one

1274
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:54,160
now i deal with a lot of cases around

1275
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:55,200
the uk

1276
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,640
a lot of the contact experiences i've

1277
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,760
dealt with from being around the

1278
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,119
birmingham area of course around the

1279
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,359
midlands uh but i deal with cases from

1280
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:02,800
anywhere in the world anybody who

1281
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:05,359
contacts me and over time a word has

1282
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,319
spread

1283
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,040
uh that i'm a good person to come to to

1284
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:10,720
talk with about the concept phenomenon

1285
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,079
so i've dealt with cases from as far

1286
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,079
wide as australia this is what i

1287
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:16,400
investigated right back in 2009 so quite

1288
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,560
an early case here

1289
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,400
and it involved a man who'd had many

1290
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,640
experiences of varying kinds throughout

1291
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:24,079
his life

1292
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,280
and again they went right back to his

1293
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,119
childhood he wanted to explore his

1294
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,880
earliest memories in more depth he was

1295
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,880
quite interested to know

1296
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:32,960
where they where things have started for

1297
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,440
him how far back these experiences went

1298
00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:36,960
because he was aware of some gaps in his

1299
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,790
memory and sort of

1300
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:39,040
[Music]

1301
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,560
he couldn't come to the uk because it

1302
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,640
costs a hell of a lot to get across even

1303
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,160
from there of course so he arranged to

1304
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,240
be regressed across in australia and

1305
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,520
afterwards

1306
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,079
uh he came out with their details and i

1307
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,560
would send the the recording of the

1308
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:55,200
regression which i then transcribed to

1309
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:00,870
and it involved when he when he went

1310
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,040
back to his childhood years he started

1311
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,960
talking about a number of visitations by

1312
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:09,990
in his home and we're going to delve

1313
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,319
into a particular aspect of that right

1314
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,400
now

1315
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,040
they just stuck a needle in my ear okay

1316
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:19,920
okay what was that for ask them why a

1317
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:22,000
needle in my ear stuck a needle in my

1318
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:23,440
ear who

1319
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:25,760
little guys with big round heads they're

1320
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,560
happy and they're wearing red okay this

1321
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,599
is crazy this is crazy how old are you

1322
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,599
going back to about three

1323
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,680
keep going why did they do that what was

1324
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,839
the reason because they care about me

1325
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,079
and they like me they said this won't

1326
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:42,079
hurt and it did hurt

1327
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:43,040
okay

1328
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,480
why were they sticking needle in your

1329
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:46,079
ear what was that about

1330
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,359
it's dna

1331
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,920
it's not it's not blood

1332
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,319
what's it for what's it going to do

1333
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,920
they're checking me that's what they're

1334
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,720
doing

1335
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,240
we're just checking to see how you're

1336
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,880
going it won't hurt it's okay what did

1337
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:00,480
you do at school today

1338
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,319
ah needle it's a needle

1339
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,240
it's very skinny very little can't

1340
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,680
hardly see it

1341
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,280
what are you doing this for oh we're

1342
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,280
just checking you we care about you

1343
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,520
we're just checking you it's okay we do

1344
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,880
this all the time

1345
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,240
when all the time

1346
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:18,000
oh when you're asleep

1347
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,800
uh he's making himself look like casper

1348
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,480
and a helmet flood

1349
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,119
why do they do that while we're playing

1350
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:26,800
you're playing games with them i'm

1351
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,359
allowed to do that do they like that

1352
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:31,920
not sure they don't want me to worry

1353
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,800
homer fudd had me filled you know their

1354
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,559
eyes aren't always black

1355
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,319
what other colors are there

1356
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,000
i was looking out with flood and all of

1357
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,920
a sudden it's a big head and the eyes

1358
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,160
were down here and they weren't covered

1359
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,839
in black they were

1360
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,920
not like cartoon noise but they're hard

1361
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:49,920
to describe

1362
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,160
it's not amazing there so

1363
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:54,000
in that regression

1364
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:55,200
he's going back to these childhood

1365
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,720
visitations these are all short little

1366
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,319
guys who come from and were performing

1367
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,800
some kind of examination in his actual

1368
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,720
house so it appeared to be there instead

1369
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,720
of aboard a craft but they actually

1370
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:06,960
changed himself or seemingly changed

1371
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,599
himself into casper uh and elmer fudd

1372
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:11,200
off off blogs bunny now isn't it

1373
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,800
interesting how similar both these

1374
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,280
characters look to a great with the bold

1375
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,839
head and then and the large eyes and

1376
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,040
obviously our

1377
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:21,760
casper being quite pale in color as well

1378
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,400
uh very interesting indeed and uh you

1379
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,559
may already see the links there but

1380
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,319
there might be multiple explanations for

1381
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,480
what's going on so let's move on we'll

1382
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,559
get back to that in a bit

1383
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,240
here's another case this is a repeat

1384
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,400
case from leeds involves a lovely chat

1385
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:38,000
named simon i've seen a number of

1386
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:39,760
conferences at a simon you're here or

1387
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,559
not

1388
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,079
no okay

1389
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,559
um so from age three he began to

1390
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,359
experience uh visitations in his bedroom

1391
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,599
and and they come to him at night as

1392
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,280
often these things do by the way it

1393
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,800
isn't always that any kind of

1394
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:54,400
misconceptions you may have heard about

1395
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,680
something that always happens with

1396
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,440
contact is absolutely nonsense so

1397
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,960
there's nothing that always happens with

1398
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,960
contact so even though a lot of the time

1399
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,400
visitations do occur in a person's

1400
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,319
bedroom at nighttime sometimes they can

1401
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:06,160
occur in broad daylight sometimes they

1402
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,440
can occur when the person is out of the

1403
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:09,599
house and out walking or even in their

1404
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,839
vehicle of

1405
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,200
course so he'd wake up frightened he

1406
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:15,119
didn't know why so he come around and he

1407
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,559
sensed there was something wrong there

1408
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,760
was something happening but he couldn't

1409
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,680
see anything at first he got really

1410
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:21,280
spooked and he'd hide underneath the bed

1411
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,640
covers when this happened he knew that

1412
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,319
something was there in the room

1413
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,160
and in the end you'd have to take a look

1414
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,599
it was kind of like the fear just build

1415
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,920
up and up and up until he peeps so he'd

1416
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,000
lift up the side of the covers

1417
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:34,319
and alongside the bed would be a beer a

1418
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,359
beam peering into him uh standing

1419
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,680
quite close to the bed i had this a very

1420
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,079
wide kind of oval shaped face uh olive

1421
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,599
colored skin although he says that that

1422
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:45,119
could have been due to the shadow in the

1423
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,040
room maybe making the being appear

1424
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:49,359
darker than it actually was

1425
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,800
interestingly he said the skin looks

1426
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:52,240
quite rubber like

1427
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,920
uh which has been reported before other

1428
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,400
people as well have seen great upbeats

1429
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,079
it had black patch i've been selling

1430
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,640
like a pirate patch over one eye

1431
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,240
there's not really interesting just just

1432
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,319
over its left eye

1433
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,079
and then he gave him no explanation for

1434
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,720
why that was the case and

1435
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,400
we'll look into that

1436
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,640
figures of authority next pretty creepy

1437
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:14,400
image there potentially you know the

1438
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,760
many black from the case would imagine

1439
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,280
so in some cases the witness remembers

1440
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,079
the beings as actual humans

1441
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,079
humans who exude authority like a

1442
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,160
soldier or a police officer

1443
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,880
um so yeah as i say um examples are the

1444
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,480
examples firemen and sometimes just

1445
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,920
smartly dressed individuals are

1446
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:34,000
commanding a smart smart black suit and

1447
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,839
this may in fact be responsible for some

1448
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,680
of the men in black sightings that

1449
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,760
people report seeing so we're not

1450
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,240
necessarily always dealing with actual

1451
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,440
men in black and that's a whole

1452
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:46,079
different subject in itself um what we

1453
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,520
mean by that is it might be a screen

1454
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,280
memory the thing might be appearing just

1455
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:52,400
as a man in a in a black suit

1456
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,760
and some of those incidents can also

1457
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,599
prove it may also be the result of my

1458
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,599
labs not screen memories i haven't even

1459
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:59,760
know what my lab is

1460
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,079
i know a couple of you okay so my lab

1461
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,000
stands for military abduction and is it

1462
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:06,559
quite rare they do occur in the uk in

1463
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:08,079
actual fact that drought which case i

1464
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,200
talked about there was another

1465
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,800
experience involving the lady and one of

1466
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,640
her daughters that appeared to be in my

1467
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:14,720
lab

1468
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,480
they're more prevalent in america now

1469
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,920
what happens with his experience is that

1470
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,440
people will have an abduction experience

1471
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,520
they'll find himself a border craft they

1472
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,599
may well see graves or other types of

1473
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,839
beings but they'll also see

1474
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,599
what appears to be soldiers working with

1475
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,520
them people in military uniform

1476
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:31,359
now there might be numerous explanations

1477
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:32,640
for that we might be having screen

1478
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,200
memories going on or

1479
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,760
it may insinuate that the um the

1480
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,680
military are in some ways working with

1481
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,520
the beings towards common agendas and

1482
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:43,920
assisting them uh with with certain

1483
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,880
abductions that are taking place now

1484
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,160
i don't want to kind of draw that

1485
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,480
conclusion to uh too drastically it's a

1486
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,720
very very complex subject um and it

1487
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,000
might be numerous things but that's

1488
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,160
obviously one of the simulations with it

1489
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,839
so yeah it might be that extreme

1490
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,520
memories occurring your soldiers not

1491
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,079
necessarily in my lab so it can be you

1492
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,599
can go either way with it

1493
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,440
so let's have a look at an exact case

1494
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,119
here involving soldiers we're back to

1495
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,400
bista him

1496
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,680
with david hunt

1497
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,839
so between the age of six and six and

1498
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,720
nine

1499
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,559
uh he would see

1500
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,319
what appears to be several american

1501
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:18,559
soldiers emerged from his bedroom walls

1502
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,359
he knows that because they have the

1503
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,599
american flag on on the uniform that

1504
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:23,359
emerged from his bedroom wall they'd

1505
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,800
walk around the edge of the bed and

1506
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,480
they'd stand in the line alongside his

1507
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:28,400
bed just basically staring blankly down

1508
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,359
with him

1509
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,440
uh now he'd be very frightened but this

1510
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:32,960
is his eight drawing he's done that's

1511
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,200
him lying there in his bed and this is

1512
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,119
the uh one of the figures and he's drawn

1513
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,559
this that's a long arrow going around

1514
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:39,920
there along to where they would go and

1515
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,800
stand next to the bed

1516
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:44,240
uh he was very frightened in these

1517
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,599
experiences he was too frightened to

1518
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,359
shout out he doesn't think he was

1519
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,760
paralyzed he would just lie there really

1520
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,680
still because he was so frightened he

1521
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,960
didn't know what was going to happen and

1522
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,960
he didn't dare shout out for his parents

1523
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,559
and in the end

1524
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:58,480
as as is regularly reported he would

1525
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,040
seemingly black out against his will and

1526
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,559
when he came around it'd be morning time

1527
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,960
and the soldiers would be gone

1528
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,720
um now it's probable screen members are

1529
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,640
actually the fact that they're emerging

1530
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,480
from the bedroom wall i've dealt with a

1531
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:12,079
lot of visitation experiences where the

1532
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,359
beams will actually do that will

1533
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,440
actually step out from light from a

1534
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,520
solid wall and so they don't always

1535
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:19,200
enter the bedroom from the door

1536
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,400
sometimes they will sometimes they'll

1537
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,839
seem to come through from outside the

1538
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:23,839
room and enter but other times they'll

1539
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,319
seemingly just step straight out which

1540
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:28,079
links back to the potential for sort of

1541
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,510
back to the uh rachel's case from

1542
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,800
ellington so you can see we're jumping

1543
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,240
around we're jumping backwards to these

1544
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,880
uh previous cases i did celery repeaters

1545
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,960
this is a particular induction

1546
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,119
experience she had it was a mid-90s and

1547
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,359
she got on holiday to scotland with a

1548
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,520
with a partner and while she was camping

1549
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,760
in scotland on the campsite um she had

1550
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:51,200
an induction experience

1551
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,640
she essentially woke up in the middle of

1552
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,119
the night in the tent um as was fast

1553
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,359
asleep alongside her there was this she

1554
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:59,119
saw this growing white light just

1555
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,559
getting brighter and brighter outside

1556
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,160
the tent at first she thought it was a

1557
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,520
vehicle that was turning up late to the

1558
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,280
campsite just driving around but there

1559
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,040
was kind of no no sound of that there's

1560
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,280
no engine noise uh but she did what she

1561
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,200
did here was this strange whirring noise

1562
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,880
it almost looked like uh felt like the

1563
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,160
noise the helicopter would make a

1564
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:16,000
distance but there was no air currents

1565
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:17,359
so there was nothing blowing the tent

1566
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,400
around even though she could hear this

1567
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,640
strange sound

1568
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,640
uh she can't paint outside the center

1569
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:24,079
look she kind of pulled over the tent

1570
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:25,440
and outside she could see the

1571
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,119
silhouettes of two

1572
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,359
men essentially standing there with

1573
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,359
a white light coming from behind them

1574
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,720
they seem to be wearing dark brown

1575
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,400
jackets and dark trousers

1576
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:35,839
and they were just standing outside the

1577
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,960
tent um she got out the tent completely

1578
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,559
volunteered in them to pull out the

1579
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,839
attention she was actually intrigued by

1580
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,280
what was going on she thought maybe she

1581
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,960
was in trouble or somebody from the

1582
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,559
campsite and something had happened so

1583
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:48,880
she gets out and the men essentially

1584
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:50,720
start just checking her up and down

1585
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,240
almost like a security level when you go

1586
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:54,079
to the airport

1587
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,520
she looks over to her right and there's

1588
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,119
another chat there somebody else from

1589
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,040
the campsite another man and he's just

1590
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,720
looking at but walden is like on earth

1591
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,960
is this and all of a sudden she actually

1592
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,680
watches him get abducted she said a

1593
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,119
white beam of light seemed to come down

1594
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,799
from above she couldn't see any craft

1595
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,839
she just saw this white blue in the

1596
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:11,760
light envelope the man and then start to

1597
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,839
lift off the ground next second she

1598
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,720
knows

1599
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,720
bang there's white lights all around her

1600
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,720
and she fills her body start to lift at

1601
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,160
this point

1602
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,559
memory ends her next memory she's inside

1603
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,480
this um sorry i'll go back she's inside

1604
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,760
this uh dull room a dull metallic room

1605
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:29,200
so it was quite rounded it was quite

1606
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:33,359
constrictive uh warm and she later on

1607
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,440
she moved from that holding room to

1608
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:37,040
another location but that's getting more

1609
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,640
into it's moving away from the screen

1610
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,880
memory part of this so

1611
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:42,559
but yeah that's all if you want to read

1612
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:43,440
more in

1613
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,720
depth about what happened next in that

1614
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,559
abduction it's in the case report like

1615
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:47,920
like everything else is that we're

1616
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,319
discussing tonight

1617
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,400
so some look at clowns and carnivals and

1618
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,079
i do apologize if any of you've got a

1619
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,760
bit of a failure of planned

1620
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:57,359
i tried to find the creepiest picture of

1621
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:58,799
a clown that could possibly find in the

1622
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,440
entire world

1623
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,200
so there's numerous cases on record

1624
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,440
where the the beings very creepily

1625
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:08,240
appear as clowns or carnival staff

1626
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:10,240
it might be because of their pale

1627
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:11,920
features and it reminds people of a

1628
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:13,200
clown

1629
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,160
maybe

1630
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:15,839
but that's getting into the explanations

1631
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,599
it can sometimes lead to an ongoing

1632
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,440
phobia of clowns and sometimes a

1633
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:22,000
porcelain doll specifically um so

1634
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:23,119
obviously a lot of people are kind of

1635
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:24,640
quite creeped out by porcelain dolls

1636
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:25,680
which is why they use them in horror

1637
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,240
films and things but it can sometimes

1638
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:30,079
the contact team has had experiences

1639
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:31,920
with beings can sometimes lead to

1640
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,319
ongoing focus on their life as one of

1641
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,960
many after effects of contact the craft

1642
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,720
can sometimes be recollected circus

1643
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,799
trucks really interesting so not even

1644
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,200
something up in the air a grand vehicle

1645
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:45,440
like a lorry with circus stuffing now

1646
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,720
amazingly this was actually referenced

1647
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,400
again by steven spielberg we're going to

1648
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,160
go back now with another clip from taken

1649
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,680
for you where you'll see that exact

1650
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,000
thing

1651
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:55,440
this is the same boy that you saw in the

1652
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:36,790
[Music]

1653
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,730
so

1654
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:38,770
[Music]

1655
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,870
uh there he's gone again

1656
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,880
uh yeah very very good show

1657
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:04,400
uh it's interesting that he's uh showing

1658
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:07,119
it a abduction occurring there in broad

1659
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,280
daylight but you can see in that there's

1660
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,440
nobody else around at the time which uh

1661
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,280
double cases just like that where

1662
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:15,119
usually it would be a busy location but

1663
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,559
for whatever reason that's the point

1664
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:17,760
when they're abducted there's nobody

1665
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,839
else around really interesting aspects

1666
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,440
to the subject

1667
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:23,760
so uh yeah back to the case from red

1668
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,880
hill that we talked about with the year

1669
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,960
with the walls the dream of the wolves

1670
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,359
this recurring nightmare was happening

1671
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,520
after a while the dream changed and

1672
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:33,680
instead of seeing walls he actually saw

1673
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:36,480
a giant floating jester's face

1674
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,400
i think or not this is a drawing he's

1675
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:40,240
done a bit this is the pointed hat with

1676
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,079
the the bell on the end of the hat here

1677
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,559
the eyes uh big big grin here the chin

1678
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,559
and the nose and that's what he saw in

1679
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:49,040
this dream master to draw to draw the

1680
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:50,400
face for me

1681
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:52,079
and you can see the similarity to uh

1682
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:53,599
punching judy is a picture i found

1683
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:56,319
online and punch almost exactly the same

1684
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:57,520
and it might have been that he'd seen

1685
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:59,040
punch of judy as a child and maybe

1686
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,799
that's why it was representing itself in

1687
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,079
that way we don't know

1688
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:04,000
and the rest of the dream remained

1689
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,359
identical

1690
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,280
the uh this big face would essentially

1691
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,880
float after him and give chase he

1692
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:10,799
couldn't run away and eventually catch

1693
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,040
up with him and he'd black out so it's

1694
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,880
really interesting that the change into

1695
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,640
something else that that we know is

1696
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:19,119
linked with contact term and

1697
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,559
so you've got these two different things

1698
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,920
occurring with that

1699
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:23,040
one case

1700
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,720
let's have a look at a direct family

1701
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,710
so yeah

1702
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,240
there is some occasions where the being

1703
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,680
they can appear something familiar to

1704
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:33,680
the individual like maybe one of their

1705
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:35,599
own relatives or a close family friend

1706
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:37,520
somebody they recognize

1707
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:40,079
and it can also sometimes be a pet uh

1708
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,680
sort of our case is linking with the

1709
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,119
something familiar and the and the

1710
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:45,520
animal thing at once

1711
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:47,119
uh the interior of the craft can also be

1712
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,720
familiar to the individual sometimes as

1713
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:50,400
i mentioned like maybe their own their

1714
01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:52,079
own home or another building that

1715
01:01:55,829 --> 01:01:53,839
they're used to going down to something

1716
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,839
to recognize

1717
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,760
let's go back to droidwich this time

1718
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,280
we're going to take back to the first of

1719
01:02:03,030 --> 01:02:01,280
the two trigger abduction experiences as

1720
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:03,040
you've seen in reverse this one happened

1721
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:05,200
about five or so days before the second

1722
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,839
one so both within the space for a week

1723
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:10,079
in this one she uh found herself free

1724
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,359
floating in this very very dark area uh

1725
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,599
she was completely naked this time up in

1726
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,720
mid-air

1727
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:18,799
uh largely paralyzed she could move move

1728
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,960
her neck a little bit but not not too

1729
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:22,000
much

1730
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:23,920
there was this really odd aspect of the

1731
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,680
case here she was surrounded by these

1732
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:27,920
yellow glowing grid lines almost under

1733
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,280
like tron or something like that it was

1734
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,599
like glowing yellow squares

1735
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,760
intersecting the entire her viewpoint in

1736
01:02:37,030 --> 01:02:35,520
all directions around her obviously she

1737
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:37,040
could only see kind of above her and

1738
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:38,720
after that by turning her eyes could

1739
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,640
look a bit either side that's it she

1740
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,720
couldn't see downwards but yeah they

1741
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,680
were everywhere now i've looked for

1742
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,520
other cases where this exact thing has

1743
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:48,000
been reported and so far i haven't found

1744
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,520
another case involving that particular

1745
01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,720
aspect

1746
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:52,400
that's not to be suspicious of by the

1747
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,520
way i wouldn't say if there was an

1748
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:55,359
aspect that doesn't occur in other cases

1749
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:56,960
that means it can't happen it's just

1750
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,359
made up thing i think that's um

1751
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:01,520
that would be jumping to conclusions too

1752
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:03,839
easily and it's a very very complex

1753
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,440
thing and a lot lots of different things

1754
01:03:09,030 --> 01:03:06,799
can occur with the subject although

1755
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:09,040
there's often similarities

1756
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,400
with this first experience you have this

1757
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:12,480
examination by this short beat she could

1758
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:14,400
feel the presence of these short beings

1759
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:16,480
either side of her we were out of cyprus

1760
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:18,240
you knew they were there kind of like if

1761
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:19,680
you stand in the middle of a crowd with

1762
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,119
your eyes closed you can still censor

1763
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:22,960
those people around you like that and

1764
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,119
again she could sense that

1765
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,799
behind the left shoulder there was this

1766
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:28,559
taller being why she was taller who

1767
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:29,359
knows

1768
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,880
um

1769
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,799
the beans perform this examination on

1770
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,400
her which is actually quite dramatic to

1771
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:36,400
her at the time and no touching the body

1772
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:37,280
lays

1773
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,920
and um at one point the being behind her

1774
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:41,440
actually calmed her down by putting its

1775
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:43,119
hand on top of her head and she felt

1776
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:45,280
this wave of calm go through her body

1777
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:47,039
and that's kind of moving away from what

1778
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:48,720
we're discussing here but just put that

1779
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:50,799
in there um in the distance all of a

1780
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,640
sudden this door opens up this long

1781
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,039
rectangular door off to the left you can

1782
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:57,359
see it's kind of looking down across the

1783
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:58,799
room from her

1784
01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:00,720
and standing in the door is a role this

1785
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:01,760
summer

1786
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,280
i when i actually went around to visit

1787
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,799
the family i met a son really lovely

1788
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:06,720
jeff quite a tall lad

1789
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,720
at least six and a half foot high

1790
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,880
she drove me i was like wow

1791
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:12,799
really tall and he was there aboard the

1792
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:15,359
craft and he was standing in this story

1793
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:16,960
and the lady was actually puzzled as to

1794
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,799
why he was there what he was doing there

1795
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,559
why he wasn't coming and helping her out

1796
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,319
or interacting in any way just standing

1797
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:23,760
there

1798
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:26,400
now under aggression when we aggressive

1799
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,760
this is what she remembered consciously

1800
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:29,520
that her son had been aboard the crafter

1801
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,039
uh she said that she spoke when the son

1802
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,480
of son had no recollection of the

1803
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,640
experience at all and when we regressed

1804
01:04:38,069 --> 01:04:36,400
her we took her back to this experience

1805
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:38,079
most of the details remain the same

1806
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:39,359
because she remembered him consciously

1807
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:40,480
already

1808
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,680
but she actually came out with different

1809
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,200
details regarding what was in the

1810
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,400
doorway

1811
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:46,160
there's something standing in the light

1812
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,760
it looks like my son

1813
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:49,680
your son is standing in the light

1814
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:52,799
it's too tall it's too tall for your son

1815
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:53,680
yeah

1816
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:56,720
how tall is your son about six foot five

1817
01:05:01,670 --> 01:04:58,400
how tall is this thing standing in front

1818
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:01,680
of you seven seven feet eight feet

1819
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:03,440
he has the features on the building also

1820
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,319
is that correct no he's very skinny he

1821
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,920
doesn't have clothes on now isn't this

1822
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,599
interesting just in that bit you'll see

1823
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:11,440
towards the start of that

1824
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:13,760
uh the wording she's describing as a son

1825
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,280
and then as it goes on she kind of a

1826
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:17,119
brain kind of realizes it's not a son

1827
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:18,640
yeah he has a vision build no it's very

1828
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,720
skinny how does he look facially his

1829
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:23,119
face looks soft he doesn't scare me he's

1830
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,359
talking but not with his mouth i can

1831
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,200
hear him but i don't know what he's

1832
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:29,359
saying he's wait he's wanting them to

1833
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:31,440
hurry he wants to know why i'm still

1834
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:34,240
here he has big eyes they're black and

1835
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:37,200
he looks kind as soon as since the lady

1836
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:38,799
came out from her aggression we've got

1837
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:40,480
to draw this being that you've seen and

1838
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:41,760
this is what she's drawn i don't know

1839
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,119
how well you can see that it's quite

1840
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:44,960
known it's quite faded in the light but

1841
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,880
essentially you can see the most of the

1842
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,400
head here this black teardrop shaped

1843
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,880
eyes very very long slender body almost

1844
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:52,799
like a thin skeleton essentially it was

1845
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,440
a very tall gray being now most of the

1846
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:57,039
time when people describe graves you

1847
01:06:00,390 --> 01:05:58,559
just see a three and a half foot four

1848
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,400
foot high but sometimes i'll describe

1849
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:02,319
these very tall ones and you can

1850
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:04,160
sometimes get cases where both are seen

1851
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:06,160
at once and the tall ones sometimes kind

1852
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:07,839
of stand at the back almost like they're

1853
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,839
overseeing proceedings maybe some sort

1854
01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:11,599
of hierarchical structure going on with

1855
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:12,319
that

1856
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:15,520
assuming possibly too much but it's

1857
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:17,680
interesting

1858
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:18,960
let's go back to what i've described the

1859
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:20,799
silhouettes this is the last type of

1860
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:22,960
screen memory uh before we go for a

1861
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:24,160
break

1862
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:25,440
um

1863
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,799
what i mean by this

1864
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:28,480
is essentially that there's cases on

1865
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:30,079
record where the beams are being seen

1866
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,480
quite closely to the individual

1867
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:33,760
where they should be able to see them

1868
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:35,520
clearly they should be able to see

1869
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,359
their facial features what they're

1870
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:38,799
wearing or whatever

1871
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,960
but they appear like black cardboard

1872
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:42,400
cutouts

1873
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:43,760
with no distinguishing features and i

1874
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:45,280
don't mean just because the room's dark

1875
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:46,559
or because the lighting coming from

1876
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:47,920
behind them i mean literally they should

1877
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:49,839
be able to see them and they can't uh

1878
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:51,520
they're almost edited out

1879
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,920
um so she'll be at least be able to make

1880
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,599
out certain details like maybe the shape

1881
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,240
of their darker eyes or the nose meth

1882
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:00,559
now this is what's described as shallow

1883
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:02,720
beams and shadow beings moves into areas

1884
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:05,359
of the paranormal uh again

1885
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,280
there's very very definite links between

1886
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:10,319
the paranormal and uh contact so many

1887
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:12,000
people who experience contact will also

1888
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:13,039
have

1889
01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,799
uh experiences that you'd usually put

1890
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:16,400
down to something like ghosts or

1891
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,400
poltergeist type activity and quite

1892
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:20,160
often they can describe seeing these

1893
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:21,920
things that we commonly call shadow

1894
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:24,000
beings or some of shallow people

1895
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:25,760
they're essentially humanoid forms that

1896
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,400
are kind of almost like black smoke um

1897
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:30,240
and i've i've got loads of cases on

1898
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:31,520
record whether those things have been

1899
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,440
reported now it's possible that they're

1900
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:35,359
actually alien beings in disguise

1901
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:36,960
appearing in that way for whatever

1902
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,359
reason or they might be something else

1903
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,200
entirely something that's maybe being

1904
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,200
drawn in because the parent person is

1905
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,280
experiencing contact some kind of link

1906
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:47,039
like that uh there's numerous

1907
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,400
explanations which i'm not going to go

1908
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:50,160
into detail on now because again it

1909
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,880
moves outside of what we're discussing

1910
01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:54,240
there's other times that the body of the

1911
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:55,839
figure's clear but the face is either in

1912
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:57,359
shadow or blur this is really more

1913
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,720
fascinating so it's not like the whole

1914
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:00,240
of it they can actually see its body

1915
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:01,680
clearly but then when they look up at

1916
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:04,400
the face the face is either blank or

1917
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,720
actually edited almost looks like fuzz

1918
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,520
down

1919
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,200
like like the brain's kind of

1920
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:11,359
editing out the facial features really

1921
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,640
interesting

1922
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,039
now here's some examples of this this is

1923
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:16,960
three separate cases none of which we've

1924
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:19,040
gone over yet okay so the case from left

1925
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,560
location henry larden and the case from

1926
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:22,080
huddersfield i don't know how well they

1927
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,359
can see those but it depends on what

1928
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,359
angle you're looking at um

1929
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,880
this one's obviously the easiest one to

1930
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,560
see out of the three um because she's

1931
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,560
filled it in uh so this this is the edge

1932
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,359
of her bed so this lady saw it really

1933
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,960
really close when she was seven years

1934
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,319
old you say and it was right there

1935
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,600
appearing on the side of the bed now

1936
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:39,120
she'd clearly better see its face that

1937
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,279
close to her but she can't now what the

1938
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,120
middle one shows it shows

1939
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,880
a number of beings in a row there's four

1940
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,799
of them in a row and one of them this

1941
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:48,480
one here you can probably just about

1942
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,159
that out it's actually holding a baby

1943
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:53,279
it's actually holding a hybrid baby um

1944
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,759
which kind of half human half alien baby

1945
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,000
and that links into other areas of the

1946
01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,000
subject as many of you will know about

1947
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,159
the um about the hybrid program again

1948
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:04,560
it's far too big to discuss but you can

1949
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,920
ask me any questions you like on it

1950
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:07,839
later on uh the leicester case is again

1951
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,600
very similar it's very very similar to

1952
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:11,279
that right picture just as then filled

1953
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:12,799
it in so you can't see it too clearly

1954
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:14,000
there's three figures in a row

1955
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,920
essentially all completely blank uh

1956
01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:17,199
standing in a row so you can see they're

1957
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,799
completely separate independent cases

1958
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:20,080
where they're all reporting very very

1959
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,600
similar things

1960
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,759
really fascinating eh so these are all

1961
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,440
the different types of screen memories

1962
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:27,440
that are going on uh we've gone over

1963
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:28,960
them and i've shown you some different

1964
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:30,319
case details

1965
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:32,000
and in the next part of the talk we're

1966
01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:33,759
going to start delving into why it might

1967
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:36,159
be occurring

1968
01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:38,000
hello everybody hope you enjoyed that

1969
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,199
break

1970
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,440
in part two we're now going to look at

1971
01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:43,759
the different potential explanations for

1972
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:46,080
what's going on with screen memories now

1973
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:48,080
some of you may already have a kind of

1974
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,520
viewpoint it might be if you've already

1975
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:51,279
brought along with you tonight

1976
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,120
and you may already know all about

1977
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:54,960
screen memories and be thinking yes it's

1978
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,040
happening because of such and such

1979
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,800
and that's absolutely fine

1980
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:00,320
uh i don't want to transcend in these

1981
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:01,760
views they're all kind of valid in their

1982
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:03,679
own way as you'll see and it might be

1983
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:05,920
multiple things that's happening but

1984
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:09,440
one thing's for sure it's pretty complex

1985
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:11,600
so let's move on with part two

1986
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,280
explanations for screen memories

1987
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,520
what is going on so screen memories

1988
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,960
they're going to be one or two things

1989
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:20,080
they're either going to be something

1990
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:22,000
happening naturally

1991
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,120
or they're going to be something that

1992
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,360
are being done on purpose as part of

1993
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:27,840
that contact experience

1994
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,830
so that we've got two sizes

1995
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,360
unintentional

1996
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:37,120
and first of all

1997
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:38,960
screen memory is down to the trauma of

1998
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,679
the situation

1999
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,440
something called archetypes which many

2000
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,800
of you won't have heard of maybe all of

2001
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,320
you when i've heard of we'll get into

2002
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,159
that a bit

2003
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,480
and also alter perception of chemical

2004
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,320
changes in the brain

2005
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:54,480
so there's a different potential

2006
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:56,320
unintentional explanations for screen

2007
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:57,440
movement

2008
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:59,440
the intentional side

2009
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:01,120
we've got something called a memory

2010
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,600
overlay

2011
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:03,520
[Music]

2012
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:06,080
and actual physical shape shifting going

2013
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:07,040
on

2014
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,000
so there's all the different things

2015
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:10,320
we're going to look at

2016
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:12,000
let's start with this our first

2017
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,239
potential explanation screen memories

2018
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:16,239
naturally occur as a result of the

2019
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,229
so this is of course the scientific

2020
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:23,679
viewpoint we're going right back now

2021
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:24,960
towards what i was talking about at the

2022
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:29,280
start with the paper on screen memories

2023
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:30,640
that various neurologists have

2024
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:31,840
highlighted the elements of

2025
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,760
psychological trauma underpinning the

2026
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:36,239
screen memory phenomena as as mainstream

2027
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,120
science

2028
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,679
understands screen memories

2029
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,440
here's a couple of quotes

2030
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:43,120
the construction of the screen memory

2031
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,040
turns on the balance between memory and

2032
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:47,360
denial the blocking of an unpleasant

2033
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,120
event thought or perception is

2034
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:51,920
facilitated if some harmless but

2035
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,560
associated object can be substituted

2036
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:57,120
for the unpleasantness itself the ego

2037
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:58,960
searches for memories that can serve as

2038
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:01,360
screams for the unpleasantness behind

2039
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:03,040
which is thereby removed from

2040
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:04,320
consciousness

2041
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,320
and that's a quote from also vengeful in

2042
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,159
another paper called the psychoanalytic

2043
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,239
theory of neurosis which was released

2044
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:13,520
right back in 1945.

2045
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,520
the second quote is from our good friend

2046
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,679
sigmund freud from his original paper

2047
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,679
and they may be considered essentially

2048
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,000
defensive in nature their illusory

2049
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,560
aspect tends to affect all remembering

2050
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:26,560
which thus may always be suspected of

2051
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,590
i'm talking just straight up playing

2052
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,440
sentences come here but uh yeah

2053
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:34,880
essentially what they mean by that is

2054
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,280
that the trauma of this situation is

2055
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,840
leading to the screen memories occurring

2056
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,600
so the trauma contacts well contact

2057
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,080
experiences of course can be extremely

2058
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,960
bizarre people see non-human entities

2059
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,800
very very strange unusual surroundings

2060
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:50,960
they're not used to

2061
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,199
often little to no communication from

2062
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:55,199
the beings as to what's going on and why

2063
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,640
they're doing this stuff

2064
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:58,159
there's various procedures that can

2065
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,560
occur and medical procedures sometimes

2066
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,719
those procedures can hurt

2067
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,719
or certainly be very frightening and

2068
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:06,000
involve kind of instruments and this

2069
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:07,120
sort of thing

2070
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,360
so it's all together a very uh generally

2071
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:11,760
a traumatic experience that's not always

2072
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,520
the case so despite the fact that some

2073
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,120
contact experiences may be viewed in a

2074
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:17,280
positive light a lot of the time they

2075
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,320
are quite nightmarish um and

2076
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,400
there are some people out there who have

2077
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,760
learned to accept their contact

2078
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,880
experiences and view them more like an

2079
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:29,040
extended family their view the beings

2080
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,400
more like

2081
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,360
family members that are coming for them

2082
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,040
and they've gained an understanding of

2083
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:36,880
what's happening to them sometimes that

2084
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:38,800
can lead to deep communication from the

2085
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,360
beings themselves

2086
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:43,440
so false memories may be recreated by

2087
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,120
the mind during these experiences to

2088
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:47,440
help understand something or overcome

2089
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:52,709
now history that squig memories are more

2090
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:56,159
common in childhood yes so maybe

2091
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,239
these experiences are more traumatic as

2092
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,560
a child because um as a child they

2093
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,360
haven't looked into uh the idea of the

2094
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:05,760
being other other beings out there in

2095
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:07,280
space this sort of thing so maybe that

2096
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,719
is a higher probability of screen

2097
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,840
memories occurring because they're more

2098
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,199
frightened by them

2099
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,880
and then later on they learn to accept

2100
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:14,480
them because they are viewing them with

2101
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:16,560
an ad online maybe

2102
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:18,080
and sometimes the screen memory is of

2103
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:19,760
course something frightening so we

2104
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:21,920
looked at the retinal case where the man

2105
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:24,080
saw a uh a number of wolves coming out

2106
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:25,760
and packed walls

2107
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:28,159
so they they had a screen memory itself

2108
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:31,360
was quite frightening in nature

2109
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:33,040
and then you've got this authoritative

2110
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,640
figure showing up from time to time so

2111
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,239
other memories of these authoritative

2112
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,400
figures down to the control being

2113
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,640
exerted by the beings in these in these

2114
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,280
situations so therefore the mind

2115
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:46,320
implants a uh a policeman or a soldier

2116
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:48,320
kind of forcing them to do certain

2117
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:51,840
things uh just maybe

2118
01:14:53,930 --> 01:14:53,120
we're looking now at something called

2119
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:53,940
reminiscence

2120
01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:59,110
so in some cases the screen memory place

2121
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:01,360
replacing the beam specifically is quite

2122
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:03,679
evocative of the actual appearance so

2123
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:05,520
for example i gave the hospitals and

2124
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:08,239
doctors now what we do know from uh

2125
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,320
countless contact cases on record is

2126
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:12,080
more often than not the interior of

2127
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:14,960
craft is a very very clinical clean

2128
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,280
environment there's usually not much

2129
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,040
kind of furnishings this sort of thing

2130
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:21,360
and that maybe that reminds the brain of

2131
01:16:18,790 --> 01:15:22,080
a

2132
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:18,800
looks

2133
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,840
and the baby barn owls uh look extremely

2134
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,560
active in indeed and many of you won't

2135
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:26,080
have seen this before i'm going to show

2136
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:27,760
you a video what baby barn owls look

2137
01:16:50,130 --> 01:16:40,709
[Music]

2138
01:16:50,140 --> 01:16:57,750
[Laughter]

2139
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:59,030
and you can see how that looks like

2140
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,800
being standing up like right being

2141
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,000
really interesting i've actually seen

2142
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,080
that video being put out there as an

2143
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,040
alien video a video mexico was just like

2144
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,360
no it's baby owls but yeah the

2145
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,880
internet's full of nonsense isn't it

2146
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,719
okay so next let's have a look at power

2147
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:14,400
dollar

2148
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:16,000
this is the tendency for incorrect

2149
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,000
perception of the stimulus of an object

2150
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,480
or a pattern or something uh meaning

2151
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,400
known to the observer so that they can

2152
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,960
see something in random patterns and

2153
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,040
it's derived from the greek words para

2154
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:29,679
which is alongside an edelon which is an

2155
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,080
image or form

2156
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,840
and this is subcategories known as

2157
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:35,679
apophenia which is a tendency to

2158
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:37,520
mistakenly perceive connections and

2159
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,400
meanings between unrelated things and

2160
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:41,760
it's commonly believed this is down to

2161
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,360
the evolution of the human brain and

2162
01:17:47,350 --> 01:17:45,520
just how intelligent we are as a species

2163
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:47,360
that we see

2164
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,719
it's actually one of the markings of

2165
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,560
consciousness the fact that we can

2166
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,040
recognize meaningful shapes out of

2167
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:55,440
abstract things um now there's some very

2168
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,360
very good examples this is very common

2169
01:18:02,229 --> 01:18:00,239
to see faces or figures in in random

2170
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,239
collections and lighter shadow and this

2171
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:04,560
is responsible for a lot of the uh

2172
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:06,719
images supposedly showing either ghosts

2173
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,360
or aliens that are available online i've

2174
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:11,440
regularly been sent images where people

2175
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:12,640
say can't you see the alien being

2176
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,760
standing there and there's literally

2177
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:15,760
nothing there it's just there then their

2178
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:17,920
mind is seeing a face spin through the

2179
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:19,760
trees or whatever and i'm not saying

2180
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:21,280
that all of them are paradoria by the

2181
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:22,320
way you know some of them might be

2182
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,760
genuine photographs i'm just saying that

2183
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:25,440
a lot of the time paranoia is very

2184
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:26,719
likely

2185
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,080
it used to be viewed as a sign of

2186
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:29,840
psychosis and when people described

2187
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,760
having paranoia they used to think that

2188
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,840
they were actually going mad but it's

2189
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,760
now considered completely normal and i

2190
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,360
can guarantee that every single one of

2191
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:39,520
us has had numerous

2192
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,719
times where you've seen paradoria

2193
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,880
throughout your life uh one very well

2194
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:44,400
known example is of course the man in

2195
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:45,600
the moon

2196
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,800
so obviously the the face there um it's

2197
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:50,400
just a combination of light and dark

2198
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:51,760
it's just different different rock

2199
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:54,159
patterns on the moon essentially but um

2200
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,080
but the human brain perceives it as a

2201
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,840
face and that's how we get the man in

2202
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,520
the moon

2203
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:00,880
it's not actually there of course and

2204
01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:02,800
here's some other great examples of

2205
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,360
paradoria to show you

2206
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:07,040
this is a very very famous one some of

2207
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:08,800
you may have seen this before

2208
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:10,719
now i'm sure you can see clearest day

2209
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,760
the uh the

2210
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,840
figure here is bearded man with his nose

2211
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:15,360
and his eyes see his hair coming down

2212
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:16,560
and i'm sure you can all see that pretty

2213
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:17,600
clear

2214
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:19,920
it's a nice obviously it's an

2215
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:21,840
old-fashioned picture it's quite old so

2216
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:24,159
it's degraded quite a lot but it seems

2217
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:26,239
clear it stayed doesn't it

2218
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:28,320
that's not a face uh what if i was to

2219
01:19:33,189 --> 01:19:30,960
tell you that's a baby sitting on a

2220
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:33,199
man's knee

2221
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:39,990
that's correct that's the baby's bonnet

2222
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,239
on his head that's his face that's his

2223
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,480
arm coming down and it's sitting on this

2224
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,320
man's knee

2225
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,159
isn't that wild but even even though you

2226
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:50,159
know that now it still looks like a face

2227
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:51,679
as soon as i see that i see the big face

2228
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:52,719
some people say it looks a bit like

2229
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:53,840
jesus

2230
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,600
really really interesting absolutely

2231
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:58,000
very very powerful paradorian

2232
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,520
there's another one

2233
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:01,440
it's a cloud it's just a cloud nothing

2234
01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:02,159
else

2235
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,920
but you can also see the face across

2236
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,679
here the eyes and the nose the mouth and

2237
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:06,719
everything

2238
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,550
another very creepy one this is another

2239
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:14,960
kind of quite vintage shot so in the

2240
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,320
picture you can see this woman standing

2241
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,080
by this bush and there's this what

2242
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:20,080
appears to be some horrific skeletal

2243
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:21,920
figure grabbing her shoulder you can see

2244
01:20:24,790 --> 01:20:23,360
his arm coming down here it's otherwise

2245
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:24,800
my feet in the air you can see it's

2246
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:26,800
screaming face here and it's body

2247
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,400
there's nothing there it's not there at

2248
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:30,239
all it's just a bush it's just light and

2249
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:32,159
dark in that bush behind her but the

2250
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,120
brain

2251
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,440
perceives it as a as a figure reaching

2252
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:37,120
out and grabbing the shoulder and not

2253
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,239
terrifying

2254
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,960
um it's a very very powerful paradoia it

2255
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,480
is not a ghost photograph it's just a

2256
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:43,840
bush

2257
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,679
terrible word

2258
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,199
there's another one it's an elephant

2259
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:49,360
just an elephant

2260
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:51,120
isn't that wild there's an elephant's

2261
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,239
here

2262
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:53,760
straight away you see it

2263
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:55,440
even if i even if i took that red ring

2264
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,719
off there you'd be like there's a face

2265
01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:57,679
on it

2266
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:01,840
it's clear it's day doesn't it

2267
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:03,520
and uh yeah no prizes for guessing what

2268
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:05,520
that looks like

2269
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:06,480
from that

2270
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:08,719
so yeah that's paradise uh so it's

2271
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,920
actually linked with something known as

2272
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,360
the royal shop test which some people

2273
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:12,880
have heard of before it says a

2274
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:16,159
psychometric examination of power dorian

2275
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,679
and in this test it's named after his

2276
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:19,600
creators with psychologist hermann

2277
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,960
rorschach

2278
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,080
come up with it

2279
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:24,400
it's a psychological test where the

2280
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:26,560
the patient the person being examined

2281
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,800
they're shown random collection of ink

2282
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:31,679
blots and they're told to to tell them

2283
01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:33,360
and tell the um the analyst what they

2284
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,360
can see in the blocks

2285
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,199
what things are appearing and this is a

2286
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:39,280
means of analyzing apparently analyzing

2287
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,719
their personality traits and their

2288
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:42,400
emotional state

2289
01:21:44,630 --> 01:21:43,199
it's

2290
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:44,640
controversial the best for some

2291
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,040
scientists to say that you can't that's

2292
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,440
a very famous example of the raw shark

2293
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:51,600
test so yeah what do you see in that so

2294
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,800
if you look at the different patterns

2295
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,159
and shapes you may come up with all

2296
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,920
sorts of things in that image that you

2297
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,440
think you can see

2298
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:59,040
and no i'm not going to analyze you and

2299
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,800
tell you what your personality is based

2300
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:02,800
on what you can see it's just there for

2301
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:09,030
and that's something completely

2302
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,590
the monkey business illusion

2303
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:17,669
count how many times the players wearing

2304
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:41,910
so

2305
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:52,310
okay

2306
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,629
the correct answer is 16 passes

2307
01:22:56,639 --> 01:23:00,390
did you spot the gorilla

2308
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,070
for people who haven't seen or heard

2309
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:04,480
about a video like this before about

2310
01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:10,310
if you knew about the gorilla you

2311
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,400
probably saw it but did you notice the

2312
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:14,320
curtain changing color or the player on

2313
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:24,380
let's rewind and watch it again

2314
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:25,830
[Music]

2315
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:28,159
here comes the gorilla and there goes a

2316
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:30,159
player and the curtain is changing from

2317
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:38,950
when you're looking for a gorilla you

2318
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,470
so there we go fascinating who saw the

2319
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:47,760
gorilla

2320
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,840
who said it before and who knew that the

2321
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,840
gorilla was going to appear so probably

2322
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:53,120
the same people

2323
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,679
who didn't see it the first time around

2324
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,360
come on no no yeah it's pretty it's

2325
01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:59,040
pretty powerful isn't it it is pretty

2326
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,560
powerful so is it something now the

2327
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,880
selective attention this is the process

2328
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,360
of focusing on a particular object in

2329
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:07,280
the local environment for a period of

2330
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:09,760
time the brain's focusing on it uh the

2331
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:11,360
attention is a limited resource our

2332
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,280
attention we can't we can't take in

2333
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:14,960
everything that's going on around us so

2334
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,120
the brain automatically filters out what

2335
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,960
it considers to be unimportant details

2336
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,880
in the surroundings and there's two

2337
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:22,880
models for this uh that kind of

2338
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:25,040
conflicting scientific viewpoints one's

2339
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:26,560
called the spotlight model and the other

2340
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:28,719
ones is the zoom lens model uh with the

2341
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:30,320
spotlight there's a focal point in which

2342
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,080
things are viewed clearly there's a

2343
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:33,920
fringe around that where things are kind

2344
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:36,400
of slightly viewed partially seen

2345
01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:38,320
and then and then the outsides of that

2346
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,840
the margin where things are missed

2347
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,760
anything that's within the margin

2348
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:43,679
and then you've got the zoom lens which

2349
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,199
is where the brain is able to increase

2350
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:47,840
or decrease the size of our focus but

2351
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:50,320
the more we focus on it reduces the

2352
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:52,239
speed of processing taking it longer for

2353
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,880
our brain to take in the information

2354
01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:55,920
and

2355
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:57,440
argued over which two of those are right

2356
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:00,080
movements both at once

2357
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,600
so yeah while neither reminiscence

2358
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:03,280
paradoin nor selective attention are

2359
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:04,719
going to be entirely responsible for

2360
01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:07,120
screen memories they may all play a part

2361
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:08,960
in determining what is or isn't

2362
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:10,239
recollected

2363
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:11,520
and they're all linked with that with

2364
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,800
that viewpoint there's something going

2365
01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:14,159
on in the brain

2366
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:16,239
uh making these things natural

2367
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,280
let's have a look at our next

2368
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,199
explanation shall we screen memories are

2369
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:21,520
naturally derived from something known

2370
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,159
as archetypes

2371
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,639
that's why archetypes archetypes are

2372
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:29,040
universal images or symbols

2373
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:30,880
that are apparently derived from the

2374
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:32,880
collective unconscious

2375
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:35,280
and what i mean by that is that there's

2376
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,280
innate knowledge that is supposedly

2377
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:39,520
passed down through the generations from

2378
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,679
our evolution so information that we

2379
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,360
know in our brains from birth that

2380
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:45,520
hasn't been taught us as a baby

2381
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,560
and inherited essentially it's a theory

2382
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:50,960
proposed by another swiss psychoanalyst

2383
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,040
called carl young there is on the right

2384
01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:54,880
and uh architects they might affect the

2385
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:57,920
conscious experiences or recollection of

2386
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:00,639
of experiences essentially

2387
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:02,560
uh here's one of his quotes

2388
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,239
these images must be thoughts i was

2389
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,320
lacking in solid content hence as

2390
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:08,719
unconscious they only acquire solidity

2391
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:10,880
influence and eventual consciousness in

2392
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:13,520
the encounter with empirical facts

2393
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:14,960
that was a quote you meant right back in

2394
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:17,120
1928

2395
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,000
so there's a number of different

2396
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,480
archetypes that are widely known about

2397
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:22,159
and two of the most well-known recurring

2398
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:24,239
archetypal images are what's known as

2399
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:27,040
the trickster and the shadow

2400
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,639
now this is really interesting because

2401
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,480
you've seen in part one the two of the

2402
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,480
types are clams and then

2403
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:34,800
i've termed silhouettes um so let's have

2404
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:36,239
a look at these in a bit more depth

2405
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,080
first of all you've got the trickster a

2406
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:39,920
character in a story who exhibits a

2407
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:41,520
great degree of intellect or secret

2408
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:43,600
knowledge and uses this to play tricks

2409
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:46,239
on people kind of like the god loki uh

2410
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:46,960
and

2411
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:50,880
now exactly like the gun reading

2412
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:53,760
reported seeing during his experiences

2413
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:56,000
then you've got the shadow and once dark

2414
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,159
side aspects that exist for which one

2415
01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:00,239
does not acknowledge or which one does

2416
01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:01,840
not identify

2417
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,920
so i'm not saying that street memories

2418
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:05,840
are caused by archetypes so no

2419
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:08,320
but do they play a fact to do this uh do

2420
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:09,760
this thing that's been passed down

2421
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:12,159
innately if archetypes exist it's a very

2422
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,920
controversial subject and many